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welcome to episode 5 of tales from the

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rabbit hole

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I'm your host Mick West my guest today

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is Dan from California dan used to be a

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prepper a survivalist someone who

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thought that the world or at least our

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current way of life was about to end at

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any moment when this didn't happen and

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when he figured out that this was taking

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a toll on his life Dan decided to drop

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the whole thing and now he's a lot

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happier so here's Dan yeah thank you

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very much for doing this sure thank you

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welcome to the tales from the rabbit

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hole podcast I I'm talking to you I

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don't really know anything at all about

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you then what happened was you left a

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comment on one of my podcasts YouTube

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videos it was the one with the X

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conspiracy theorists right and you said

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I'm just gonna read what you wrote if

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you don't mind sure it says I was

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exposed to the conspiracy theory mindset

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when I was 11 years old

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I'm 52 now and I realized that 49 none

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of those theories played out it was all

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extreme speculation run amok I no longer

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waste time with it and I'm much happier

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Etha those those are they were

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fascinating comment and you know it

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seemed like there's obviously an

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interesting story behind that well yeah

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so I was wondering if you could take us

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back to when you were 11 my gasps

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brother my uncle would come home for the

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holidays and you know sure whatever book

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he was reading at the time is a real

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smart guy college educated this and that

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and he read George Orwell's 1984 mmm-hmm

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and then after that books about the CFR

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the Trilateral Commission builder birds

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you know all the the usual suspects and

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this was a frequent thing throughout my

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youth so it was always a topic that I

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knew something about even though it was

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just information from him so always knew

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of this I hate to see Illuminati but

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this other power structure going on as I

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grew up and so there was always the you

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know the the the thing behind the things

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so to speak but it didn't really have

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any effect on my behavior or outlook

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until 2008 all that other time it's just

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you to hear things learn things whatever

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the case is but it was in 2008

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just prior to Obama being elected there

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was an email he got sent out and it just

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said something to the effect of when

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Obama is elected there's going to be a

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vent and he will be forced to implement

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martial law for anywhere from 60 to 90

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days but it was about 25 pages long it

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was really done well and being of a

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conspiracy theory mindset anyway and

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then getting a hold of this bit of

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information that's when I started to act

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upon these things as far as becoming a

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prepper I don't think to call it

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prepping back then became a prepper

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you know stocking foods guns bullets all

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this kind of stuff Larry skills this

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kind of thing we rented now it's like

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the mindset was okay you know where this

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thing is going to end so whatever you

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were doing before you need to jettison

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that now you're going into the other

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direction preparing for this inevitable

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bad thing that's what that point is when

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I actually affected my lifestyle

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where's prior to that I was just you

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hear of these things you know they just

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said go back to my uncle we talked about

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doubl years I was always in an economic

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collapse on the horizon and these kinds

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of things but it wasn't until 2008 we're

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actually acted upon it said you're just

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through fear that hey you need to do

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something here I think I my family

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involved and you know we stockpile food

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water this kind of thing and here it is

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we're into Trump now and we survived

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this Obama thing none of that ever

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happened matter of fact some of those

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things I stored up and locked away back

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then I finally had to throw away and I

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had at that point I had to take around

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2000 I want to say 12 and there that the

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recession was going on this and that

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yeah I had to say you know this this why

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am I putting time in on this thing and

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it's it's especially with YouTube I mean

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I just eat these videos up and I just

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said you

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the stuff isn't panning out I'm not

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saying that it might not happen in the

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future I think something could happen

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yeah but for as much time as I have

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invested with concern worry whatever we

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call it and really nothing ever happened

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if I was picking horses racehorses I'd

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be the ultimate loser but it was just

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the time and the effort put in and spent

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thousands of dollars you know preparing

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for these things and all that you know

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yeah it was a waste of time but there's

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no value in day yeah with prepping I

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think in a way like you're you know

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taking a little gamble on the future

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there's nothing are being prepared and

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I'm a reasonable level of preparation

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for things like natural disasters and

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whatnot right now I mean everyone should

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do that and you know something might

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have happened when you're prepping years

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there might have been a giant earthquake

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or something and have been being glad

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but these things are kind of few and far

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between the the things where you

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actually need things so you had the idea

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in back in like the the 2000s the

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Society was going to collapse during the

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air more yes more or less yes and that

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it was going to be something deliberate

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done by the the Illuminati essentially

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and right yeah well you could pick your

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favorite you know in group

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yeah the Illuminati or whatever the case

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is but you know I actually believe you

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know I've had friends here in YouTube

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where they're they think there's just

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one body of people this cabal or

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whatever yeah and actually I can look at

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it now and say well there's many mm-hm

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company there called Toyota Motor

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Company and they will go out of the way

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to do anything and everything possible

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to get you to buy their product they

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will market you they've all show you

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pretty pictures on the television of

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magazines and they are doing everything

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they can to manipulate you teach you not

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to buy a Honda but to buy a Toyota mm-hm

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and see them say some will say well

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that's not the same thing yeah but we

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have many groups like that the left

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wants you to do what the left wants the

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right wants to do with the right wants

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and whoever's pushing their

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or whatever yeah so you get to the point

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where I just can't see one single group

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or two that runs everything when I think

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everyone's trying to run everything I

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don't think there's any one group that

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has this thing nailed down that things

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turned out to plan so far yes yeah well

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I always point out just how many

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billionaires that are in the world if

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you look at the list of Forbes

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billionaires and they're just so diverse

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you've got like a whole bunch in China

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you got a bunch in Russia you got a

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bunch in America you know brighter you

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got them in the UK and France Europe

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Australia New Zealand billionaires all

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around the world and they're all doing

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different things and they're all in

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different industries and we can't assume

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that every billionaire is this evil you

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know man behind the curtain

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I mean somebody's very successful yeah

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so we're looking to get that Billy yeah

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they've invented something that's turned

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out to be very useful like right right

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like we're doing right here yeah yeah so

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like back in say 2008 what were the

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types of conspiracy theories like other

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than just a general idea that the

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government was plotting this big this

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big economic shift in the future would

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you believe other things as well well

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other things like there was maybe you

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know I was a hardcore fan of art bill

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for all those years you know he was

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going on and you had your entire body

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into the I mean you looked at all the I

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think was major at Dame's or something

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every you next year this is it this

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thing's over

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and he had that many years I did I

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accepted a lot of these things like

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maybe there was an Illuminati or maybe

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it was the Jews or maybe it's this or

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that I kind of accepted that but it

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wasn't until I got this one email where

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it's this was going to affect me this

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was actually going to touch me with

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those other things

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I really can't control any of that even

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if it's true true mm-hmm if there is

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this cabal somewhere what can I do

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yes I think I'm good you know I mean you

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grew up with was that kind of belief

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that was right yeah a powerful group of

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people control I mean the Cold War you

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know 1985 is when I graduated high

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yeah Reagan and all that with a fear of

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nuclear holocaust

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and all this kind of thing and so you

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just kind of get numb to this kind of

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stuff but it was I said it wasn't until

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I got that email random email and which

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got me to act so you know this could

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affect me here this is something that

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could if this happens this is going to

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happen here and this is going to affect

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me where that that had it took my level

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from concern to fear like okay if you

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don't do something and this does happen

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you're in a bad way so it was that was a

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real motivator for me as far as other

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conspiracies you know having been at

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this stuff for so long it's more just

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like it

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like some kid reads a comic book series

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and just keeps going with and going with

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it going with it well there's so many

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different things that happens in every

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magazine that you just to me it was just

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an ongoing thing so I never I never

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locked into any one thing whether it was

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this with that or the other you know

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ideals that was I can't nail down eating

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one conspiracy theory that really had me

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wrapped up yeah with a conspiracy

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theories back then that you thought were

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just a bit too ridiculous like I mean

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those things like you credit aliens

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reptilians obviously that's so I said

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David lower end of the spectrum yeah we

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have a lot of I think it was someone

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other than major David I think there was

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home one did a lot of stuff to you that

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when you start dealing with planets

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meteorites asteroids this kind of stuff

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you know it's like okay I mean how much

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even if they said it's coming tomorrow

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kala whatever you you can't stop if

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there's nothing so you just exist so

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it's so extreme that you just you just

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quit right off the get-go okay if that

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happens it happens whatever I can't

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pretty I'm like an investing time in

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that right right so like say chemtrails

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for example is that something you paid

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attention to you know camp girls I prep

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were right next to an airport here and

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airport and I'm here in the central

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California you can see the sky most of

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the time right and chemtrails contrails

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we need to call it I've grown up around

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that my whole life until they started

275
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calling him chemtrails originally I

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thought hey there's something to this

277
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wow this is but as you get older a

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little wiser you realize I don't see the

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profit in this

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I just don't see how you're going to and

281
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just say I think you guys spoke on

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before how you gonna keep all these

283
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people quiet I have friends that are

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pilots commercial pilots and they just

285
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laugh I mean I mean I have a better idea

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instead of us flying over your house and

287
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spraying it why don't I just get you to

288
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drive in somewhere to a drive-in and eat

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our food that's how I'm gonna poison you

290
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mm-hmm I mean poison and sorry we helped

291
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so much food is a bunch of crap so it's

292
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it'd be far more effective and you would

293
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pay me for it why would I spend time

294
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spraying you from thousands ten to

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thirty thousand feet not knowing where

296
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it's gonna lay it in all those Kempton I

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just say doesn't right and I don't see

298
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the profit in it the amount of expense

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of a the chemtrail and then what the

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profit is I don't get it yeah I think

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that the theory that they have now is

302
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that it is some kind of geoengineering

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like they're trying to change the

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climate to either prevent global warming

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or fake global warming it's not entirely

306
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clear what they're they're saying most

307
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of the time if you're going to do

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something that's for the good you tell

309
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people about yeah that's not good and

310
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apparently for 50 years or so oh yeah

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just throw the back Craster's and even

312
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they would sing just very ineffective

313
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very ineffective yeah I mean

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crop-dusting you have to do it close to

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the ground obviously but you spray

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things that are way up there that it's

317
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gonna come down like you know it's up in

318
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Kansas thousands of miles away yeah

319
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what about say 9/11 that there's a whole

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broad number of conspiracy around 9/11

321
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9/11 I got caught up in that especially

322
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with the site yeast was eat guys never

323
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you guys say that it's like dye stuff

324
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I think most of this at the time they

325
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point something out I don't think I'm

326
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speaking up for myself

327
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mm-hmm but everyone's known maybe you

328
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had a girlfriend or your wife or friend

329
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or something they like to go to horror

330
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movies scary movies I don't like to be

331
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scared I've had girlfriends oh they just

332
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loved that just love something about it

333
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and I think what happens when we get

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into these topics

335
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especially in dealing with YouTube

336
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videos and I had to ask myself why do I

337
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watch this stuff you already know it

338
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doesn't play up most of the time why am

339
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I watching this well it brings up a it

340
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alters my state it brings up an emotion

341
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to me which is anxiety anxiousness and I

342
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guess I like that okay so when you see

343
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something like sight guys do this kind

344
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of thing that really freaked me I don't

345
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want to first saw and so it's like whoa

346
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but this was like a horror movie this

347
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thing really old man and over time I'm

348
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looking back I'm thinking when they

349
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named the claims that they've made I'm

350
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thinking you know over and over time

351
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like max I don't I don't think so it I

352
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mean I kind of bought into it originally

353
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but I'm like I just I don't think you

354
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can once again you're gonna get that

355
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many people on the same page the time

356
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he's got to be perfect too many people

357
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involved you just can't you know someone

358
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would have spoke of something by now

359
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mmm-hmm you know I set the bombs or what

360
00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:23,850
you know this kind of stuff and I just I

361
00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:26,490
can't I just that will give me a time

362
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for now that's that's really interesting

363
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the analogy drew there with the horror

364
00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:33,060
movies like it yeah yeah he's some kind

365
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of like visceral response that yeah your

366
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brain just its course have some

367
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chemicals that you your body kind of

368
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enjoys in a way like a roller right if

369
00:14:45,020 --> 00:14:43,530
you look at let's say I'll take you I

370
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can't watch a lot of YouTube videos if

371
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you're an inspirational speaker and you

372
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actually inspire people with your words

373
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people like that and they're gonna watch

374
00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:54,150
your videos and support your videos and

375
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buy your t-shirts or whatever you got

376
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going on cuz it makes them feel good

377
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makes them feel good there's an

378
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emotional thing yeah same thing if you

379
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look at shtf videos I used to look at

380
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all I should watch the stuff all the

381
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time

382
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shtf scenarios or coming closest videos

383
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variables type stuff

384
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yeah for me it brought out that that for

385
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me it was anxiousness the emotion the

386
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statement my mental state that it was

387
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preying upon was the this anxiety this

388
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fear and it's like hit me like a kind of

389
00:15:30,970 --> 00:15:29,190
bricks whoa damn like that's why I'm

390
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watching this stuff I already know that

391
00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:33,150
this meteors not gonna hit her tomorrow

392
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there's not an EMP happening tomorrow

393
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or some of these you know all these wild

394
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specular things but why am I still

395
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:41,250
watching this I know most this is this

396
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boning

397
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because I got that horror movie effect

398
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I'm saying let's look like prepping and

399
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:52,019
preparing for it it almost is like the

400
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opposite type of thing is giving you a

401
00:16:00,980 --> 00:15:59,210
but remember most of these things will

402
00:16:01,819 --> 00:16:00,990
give you a originally once you think

403
00:16:04,819 --> 00:16:01,829
about it gives you a sense of

404
00:16:07,429 --> 00:16:04,829
hopelessness hmm hey write hopelessness

405
00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:07,439
you do something so will you give oh I'd

406
00:16:10,249 --> 00:16:08,790
better prepare better well office at

407
00:16:12,379 --> 00:16:10,259
least at least I have this I've done

408
00:16:14,869 --> 00:16:12,389
this part most guys want to act well

409
00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:14,879
they get information on activated say so

410
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:16,769
and I think I know that I said nothing

411
00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:18,240
wrong with prepping all I have a lot of

412
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:20,250
friends around you do from Preppers this

413
00:16:25,999 --> 00:16:23,250
than that and but I know for me I said

414
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:26,009
speaking for myself once I realized what

415
00:16:31,819 --> 00:16:29,759
the recipe was okay it certain channels

416
00:16:35,809 --> 00:16:31,829
I watched a lot and they had the most

417
00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:35,819
extreme dad it's gonna be bad it's

418
00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:38,850
coming soon it's imminent whatever the

419
00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:40,620
thing was you know collapse or whatever

420
00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:42,630
it's right on the you know we're right

421
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:44,670
on the edge of this thing it's any time

422
00:16:49,129 --> 00:16:47,130
now these guys would have 500,000

423
00:16:51,740 --> 00:16:49,139
subscribers and get 50,000 views by noon

424
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:51,750
and I was one of them and if you look at

425
00:16:55,850 --> 00:16:53,850
the comments I wouldn't be willing to

426
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:55,860
bet the 50% of people to support this

427
00:17:00,249 --> 00:16:58,560
channel these views are people like me

428
00:17:04,159 --> 00:17:00,259
that we're getting off on this anxious

429
00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:04,169
this kind of thing and so I have other

430
00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:06,329
friends that have channels good honest

431
00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:08,130
people genuine people but they don't

432
00:17:14,059 --> 00:17:11,640
push the extremes they got 5000

433
00:17:18,529 --> 00:17:14,069
subscribers they get to a thousand views

434
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:18,539
and they're not tapping into the people

435
00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:20,610
like me that become addicted to this

436
00:17:24,740 --> 00:17:22,559
kind of thing see so you get this whole

437
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:24,750
emotional thing so it's not healthy

438
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:26,850
yes that's really not healthy for

439
00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:30,059
someone like using my situation see yeah

440
00:17:36,140 --> 00:17:34,020
you can see I I do some flutters

441
00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:36,150
debunking videos all right might

442
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:40,440
actually kind of sober here's the facts

443
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:42,240
type things and then there's other

444
00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:44,010
people who do flutter debunking videos

445
00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:46,289
and they're all like yeah you're an

446
00:17:49,690 --> 00:17:47,990
idiot you know this guy

447
00:17:51,490 --> 00:17:49,700
and we're talking about I what a [\h__\h]

448
00:17:54,850 --> 00:17:51,500
and here I'll explain what the thing is

449
00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:54,860
and they're much more emotional wrong

450
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,600
exactly they get way more views than I

451
00:18:01,240 --> 00:17:58,880
do because I just I just stick to the

452
00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:01,250
science and well it's if you're going to

453
00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:04,190
get big you have to push that button

454
00:18:09,370 --> 00:18:08,390
mm-hmm now chances are yes may not be

455
00:18:11,289 --> 00:18:09,380
your thing it's not my thing

456
00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:11,299
I don't to be followed by a bunch of

457
00:18:16,330 --> 00:18:12,860
people that are a little unhinged like

458
00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:16,340
myself but if if if you're going to do

459
00:18:18,970 --> 00:18:17,929
that kind of a top notes just like said

460
00:18:20,289 --> 00:18:18,980
if you're gonna do inspirational

461
00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:20,299
speaking you need to push that button

462
00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:21,919
and Spyros people that's a positive

463
00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:24,830
thing but when you're doing sh t f

464
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,840
apocalypse this kind of stuff collapse

465
00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:28,640
that's not a positive thing it's a

466
00:18:32,169 --> 00:18:30,860
negative deal from the get-go and you

467
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:32,179
have to push that negative button in

468
00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:35,330
those people and the more extreme you do

469
00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:38,140
it the more participation you get well

470
00:18:41,649 --> 00:18:40,370
there's people out here that figured out

471
00:18:43,899 --> 00:18:41,659
the recipe and that's what they do they

472
00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:43,909
play it up if it's if an event happens

473
00:18:49,149 --> 00:18:46,309
today and it's on a level of five they

474
00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:49,159
push you to 11 and get the crowd fired

475
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:51,350
up and people just just go for it

476
00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:55,250
yeah this is it yeah this is it's

477
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:55,820
happening

478
00:19:01,180 --> 00:18:59,120
right you're completely wrong you can

479
00:19:03,789 --> 00:19:01,190
make all the wild speculation you want

480
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:03,799
predictions mm-hmm and if you fall flat

481
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:06,320
on your face someone who like me when

482
00:19:09,580 --> 00:19:08,240
you push my button I'll forgive you for

483
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:09,590
that I'll watch the next video we'll go

484
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:12,770
back in again push my button see once I

485
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:14,510
realize that about this topic about

486
00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:16,850
whether it's conspiracy theory or this

487
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:18,260
coming collapse or whatever yeah they

488
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:19,730
really ticked me off I'm like man I'm

489
00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:22,730
getting played here so it's it's I have

490
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:25,940
to look at things and if I see nothing

491
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,120
else the most important thing is if you

492
00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:31,520
walk into these things and let them

493
00:19:36,430 --> 00:19:33,649
affect your state of mind you basically

494
00:19:38,049 --> 00:19:36,440
get a bad attitude you cannot maintain a

495
00:19:39,789 --> 00:19:38,059
good attitude at least someone like me

496
00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:39,799
when you're bringing all this

497
00:19:46,330 --> 00:19:42,289
information in this bad news coming

498
00:19:50,590 --> 00:19:46,340
collapse warnings concerns and so you

499
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:50,600
end up with a perspective about your

500
00:19:55,899 --> 00:19:53,840
your world is very very that's me is I

501
00:19:58,379 --> 00:19:55,909
think it's damaged at this point because

502
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:58,389
usually look at everything from that

503
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:01,520
conspiracy theory becomes your filter or

504
00:20:06,610 --> 00:20:03,770
shtf collapse preparedness becomes your

505
00:20:09,550 --> 00:20:06,620
filter for everything I mean I missed if

506
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:09,560
you go back to like 2010-11 I was

507
00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:11,450
falling into the stuff there were there

508
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:13,340
were financial opportunities that came

509
00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:16,010
my way that I avoided because I said

510
00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:17,150
well this I don't think your sisters

511
00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:18,140
gonna be available I don't think

512
00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:19,310
currencies gonna be around for another

513
00:20:24,510 --> 00:20:21,500
year dude and I passed over some great

514
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:24,520
opportunities you tend to start

515
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:28,490
segregating yourself from we'll just

516
00:20:31,150 --> 00:20:30,110
call it normal society because well

517
00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:31,160
they're not awake yet they don't know

518
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:32,600
what's going on just like a spent thymus

519
00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:34,370
you just you start segregating yourself

520
00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:36,800
from that and you just you can to some

521
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:39,200
really dark a really dark place for me

522
00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:41,330
just gave me a really bad attitude did

523
00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:43,400
it affect your relationships with like

524
00:20:45,670 --> 00:20:45,320
other people that you worked with or the

525
00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:45,680
year

526
00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:49,390
you met yeah that you yeah yeah people

527
00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:53,870
yeah as far as no tell too many people

528
00:21:03,370 --> 00:20:54,830
this'll think you're crazy

529
00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:03,380
so it's not I never uh hmm it was never

530
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,060
a thing where I was I mean I probably

531
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:07,280
spent less time I'm kind of reclusive

532
00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:09,890
anyway I do retails part of my life and

533
00:21:14,620 --> 00:21:11,270
then I go home I'm home by myself

534
00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:14,630
animals all this stuff I raise cattle so

535
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:16,310
I've never wanted to really go out go

536
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:18,530
out of my way to create a new circle of

537
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:20,990
friends so I can't really judge that as

538
00:21:24,610 --> 00:21:23,090
far as it has it affected my my social

539
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:24,620
life I don't know did you feel like you

540
00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:26,090
were brought to an online community with

541
00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:28,220
the people online that you would chat

542
00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:30,830
with yes oh yeah I'm actually made some

543
00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:33,380
pretty good friends online through these

544
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:36,680
topics yeah but new this is 2008 as far

545
00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:38,690
as being active on YouTube yes it's

546
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:40,430
2000ad meet some besides you pretty good

547
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:42,290
friends you don't all agree with me I

548
00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:44,090
have had some other fridge too that

549
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:46,040
we're just like me as far as during the

550
00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:47,870
Obama years how the whole things can get

551
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:49,910
bad to sit at that have pretty much left

552
00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:51,650
the topic they do other things now

553
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:53,720
they've got into hobbies it's like they

554
00:21:58,690 --> 00:21:55,700
grew out of it kind of like in my

555
00:22:00,370 --> 00:21:58,700
situation so you know this just I'm 52 I

556
00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:00,380
don't know how many years I have left I

557
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:02,120
want to get the most out of it and I'm

558
00:22:09,820 --> 00:22:04,610
not gonna waste it burning it up on this

559
00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:09,830
stuff yeah 52 2 so I you know when you

560
00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:11,510
talk to you make some pains yeah you

561
00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:13,670
talked about the aches and pains I know

562
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:16,020
what you're talking about

563
00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:17,730
yeah when you think about the Cold War I

564
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,550
remember growing up in in the 80s and

565
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:22,320
there were things like the Star Wars

566
00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:26,880
program and with Reagan and the threat

567
00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:30,620
of nuclear war back then and now what

568
00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:33,870
where were you I was in the arena when I

569
00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:36,840
grew okay III do cuz I was it Australian

570
00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:39,660
one time at that at that time and I fear

571
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:42,660
I have to assume the news you guys God

572
00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:44,930
was different than the news that we got

573
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:47,340
because I had friends that were from the

574
00:22:51,050 --> 00:22:48,960
UK they say hey we're hearing this this

575
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:51,060
and this well we're hearing it you know

576
00:22:55,970 --> 00:22:52,770
you were hearing it different you know

577
00:22:57,260 --> 00:22:55,980
it's more of a fear oh this guy Reagan's

578
00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:57,270
crazies falling asleep at the wheel

579
00:23:00,380 --> 00:22:58,890
because we didn't hear a whole lot of

580
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:00,390
that over my friends Australia surely

581
00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:02,010
did they were scared to death there was

582
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:03,900
there was some of that in the UK there

583
00:23:08,330 --> 00:23:05,250
was quite a lot of people who have made

584
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:08,340
fun of a famous satirical puppet show

585
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:10,010
back in the 80s called spitting image

586
00:23:14,890 --> 00:23:12,780
and they had a segment every week which

587
00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:14,900
was the president's brain is missing

588
00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:16,980
make fun of the latest things that he

589
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:19,380
says so we were definitely aware of that

590
00:23:24,350 --> 00:23:21,570
there was you know questions about to

591
00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:24,360
have that regular back down so that the

592
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:26,340
people that you met online know the you

593
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,960
know you proved to be friends with

594
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:29,760
online or though some now who are still

595
00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:32,850
in that conspiracy mindset rightly that

596
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,230
you still talk to hmm oh yeah I have

597
00:23:40,790 --> 00:23:38,640
people I subscribe to way back then I

598
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,800
still subscribe to now because they were

599
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:42,240
small there's still like small channel

600
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:44,910
people a couple thousand subs and I

601
00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:48,000
support them but whereas their if their

602
00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:49,920
video comes across my screen it's just

603
00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:52,470
another title about this collapse or how

604
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:55,080
to prep what I just I don't necessarily

605
00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:56,640
you know okay that's my friend doing his

606
00:23:59,570 --> 00:23:58,020
thing that's he still doing that or

607
00:24:01,340 --> 00:23:59,580
whatever and I don't I don't wish them

608
00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:01,350
any harm if that's you know you got to

609
00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:02,460
do what they think is right but I just

610
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:04,830
don't participate like I used to but

611
00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:06,210
most of the big channel with the

612
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:08,280
channels that knew how to push my button

613
00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:11,550
to get me evolved I I'm done with all

614
00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:13,860
those I don't go near that because

615
00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:15,540
they're still entertaining for me you

616
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:17,700
know you put up a good title a good

617
00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:19,110
warning kind of thing is still that's

618
00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:20,790
scary movie I might want to see and get

619
00:24:24,170 --> 00:24:22,020
you know caught up or whatever

620
00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:24,180
do you like you might get sucked back in

621
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:27,100
again if you watched a few videos

622
00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:32,590
no the it goes back to the same there's

623
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:34,630
a little bit of a discipline when I was

624
00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:35,710
going through all this

625
00:24:42,029 --> 00:24:38,950
probably about 2012-13 I'm a Christian

626
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,039
okay and trying to follow the teachings

627
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:44,080
of Jesus and a good part of that if you

628
00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:46,210
look at if took me a while to figure

629
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:48,190
this out if you look at the attitude

630
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:50,530
that you my faith wanted me to have and

631
00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:52,390
then the attitude that I was creating

632
00:24:57,690 --> 00:24:55,720
over here in this scary world kind of

633
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:57,700
thing two different things so wait how

634
00:25:01,409 --> 00:24:59,530
am I gonna walk this thing out but I'm

635
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:01,419
constantly getting myself all jacked up

636
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,730
over here kind of deal so that was

637
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:04,960
another part of it to you where it's

638
00:25:08,669 --> 00:25:06,730
like you know you gotta say yes you have

639
00:25:09,539 --> 00:25:08,679
no choice but to separate yourself from

640
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,549
this because you're getting too

641
00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:11,440
emotionally involved in this stuff which

642
00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:14,140
messes up your attitude and now you're

643
00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:17,380
off the path again so did you know that

644
00:25:22,409 --> 00:25:19,870
was you know bad attitude

645
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:22,419
how long do you think he yeah your

646
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:24,370
transition took he said like it was

647
00:25:29,850 --> 00:25:26,770
around when was it you started kind of

648
00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:29,860
having doubts about it well it's I can't

649
00:25:35,789 --> 00:25:32,830
even exactly they're probably around I'm

650
00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:35,799
gonna say mm well actually I can it was

651
00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:37,150
pretty good for a while they're kind of

652
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:38,740
staying out of this stuff was watching

653
00:25:42,029 --> 00:25:39,850
certain videos I'm not gonna watch his

654
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:42,039
videos and work is a bad attitude then

655
00:25:46,110 --> 00:25:43,690
the ISIS thing started a rock and roll

656
00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:46,120
again and there was there was a fourth

657
00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:49,059
of July coming up and this had to be at

658
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:52,390
the 14 or 15 might be 2014 and that kind

659
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:54,370
of got me when uh you know I might you

660
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:56,289
know keep my eye on this this might be

661
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,730
something that you know feel here at

662
00:26:02,220 --> 00:25:59,440
home and kind of got caught up in it I

663
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:02,230
started making videos myself so let's

664
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:06,130
say 14 15 and then realize that you know

665
00:26:10,350 --> 00:26:08,289
this is just a repeat you're doing it

666
00:26:12,539 --> 00:26:10,360
all over again you're caught up in this

667
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:12,549
thing yeah it's been entertaining but

668
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:13,750
here you get oh you got this bad

669
00:26:18,899 --> 00:26:15,970
attitude going again

670
00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:18,909
miserable outlook you know the future is

671
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:22,360
not bright and this kind of thing and

672
00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:24,010
then that affects everything else that

673
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:26,230
you do you know a bad attitude that's

674
00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:29,260
just terrible so I mean so that would be

675
00:26:36,510 --> 00:26:34,390
probably by 15 I'm like yes you're done

676
00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:36,520
with this you know you can't you have to

677
00:26:40,289 --> 00:26:38,830
stop doing this again and it's that's

678
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:40,299
the probably at that point is when I

679
00:26:43,330 --> 00:26:40,880
realized

680
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:43,340
I'm getting my buttons pushed here okay

681
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:45,050
why am I so why am i why I go back to

682
00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:47,450
the stuff yeah there was some some very

683
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,100
compelling events that happened

684
00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:51,440
I said Isis was it was just start a rock

685
00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:52,790
and roll and there were threats of some

686
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:54,740
terrorist attacks possibly happening

687
00:27:00,850 --> 00:26:57,170
here but I said what is it's it's that

688
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:00,860
horror movie you know anxiety thing

689
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,450
going again that you want to be scared

690
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:04,640
whatever it is something that I liked

691
00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:06,350
obviously that drew me back into this

692
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:08,840
thing or kept me in it I realized okay

693
00:27:13,270 --> 00:27:10,490
you gotta just divorce yourself in this

694
00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:13,280
this is not getting anywhere it's

695
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:15,040
affecting everything else what I'm doing

696
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:18,830
you to thing it's very interesting it's

697
00:27:23,170 --> 00:27:20,870
like new it's making you like you know

698
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:23,180
kind of a toxic person oh right in a way

699
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:24,920
you say you're a lot happier now and you

700
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:26,990
seem like a happy person just talking

701
00:27:33,550 --> 00:27:29,570
teacher will you would you say you act

702
00:27:35,890 --> 00:27:33,560
like really angry or no how would you

703
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:35,900
put it more of a I don't want to see

704
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:37,130
depression because that's a pretty

705
00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:38,510
powerful thing it haven't really been a

706
00:27:44,410 --> 00:27:42,350
depressed person but it was like almost

707
00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:44,420
like living a countdown and so he had

708
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:45,980
this extra weight it's just extra stress

709
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:49,070
on you and so when other people were

710
00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:51,350
having you know they call them the

711
00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:53,240
sheeple out there oh look they're all

712
00:27:56,590 --> 00:27:55,190
happy and you know because they don't

713
00:27:58,390 --> 00:27:56,600
know what's going on well I start see

714
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,400
well these people are happy or they knew

715
00:28:01,570 --> 00:27:59,840
what's going on or not and I'm over here

716
00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:01,580
miserable I don't think I actually have

717
00:28:07,090 --> 00:28:05,720
treated people poorly but I did not just

718
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:07,100
like you said oh you seem like a pretty

719
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:08,630
happy person I probably seem like a very

720
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:11,210
happy person then just an extra edit it

721
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:14,210
put a lot of stress on me okay and you

722
00:28:19,450 --> 00:28:16,310
met people that are really burdened with

723
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:19,460
stress or not that thing's been in a

724
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:23,360
subtle way yes I changed your your

725
00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:25,550
outlook on life really right don't you

726
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:27,560
you were living on the edge like you

727
00:28:29,610 --> 00:28:28,850
felt like this this sense of impending

728
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:29,620
doom

729
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:32,840
exactly now some people might say that

730
00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:35,450
having a bad attitude or this sense of

731
00:28:41,290 --> 00:28:37,190
impending doom is not a good reason to

732
00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:41,300
stop believing in things because you

733
00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:42,740
know you're just doing it to feel good

734
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:44,780
and that's almost like you wanting to be

735
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:46,370
a chief all because you think she poles

736
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:47,150
are happier

737
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:49,490
great point put your head in the sand

738
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:53,250
yeah how would you respond to that

739
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:55,950
well I have to speak for myself I've

740
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:57,570
known some I know some people they can

741
00:29:02,029 --> 00:29:00,480
do the scare video and they're prepared

742
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:02,039
for it and they go out and have a

743
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:04,620
wonderful life or so they say

744
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:07,559
not me I just took it real serious you

745
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:09,030
know if someone said that this thing is

746
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:10,860
going to happen it's really soon and the

747
00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:12,179
other guy says it ain't you need to get

748
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:14,190
prepared for that I don't have time for

749
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:16,169
idle chitchat and these kind of things

750
00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:18,390
so it was all of a sudden I'm getting

751
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:20,100
geared up for this thing me and while

752
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:21,360
everyone else around me is going on

753
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:22,830
about their day like nothing's up

754
00:29:29,149 --> 00:29:26,460
good yes so I am I'm a square peg in a

755
00:29:30,919 --> 00:29:29,159
round hole all of a sudden and so if

756
00:29:32,419 --> 00:29:30,929
someone says well you can't just to

757
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:32,429
ignore these things well I'm not

758
00:29:37,159 --> 00:29:35,010
choosing well I am ignoring these things

759
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:37,169
because the effect on me was so dramatic

760
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:39,090
right I wanted more out of myself

761
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:42,330
there's I can't these these fear videos

762
00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:44,700
I'll call them I can't control any of

763
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:46,200
these things I have no impact on these

764
00:29:48,890 --> 00:29:47,370
things whatsoever I watched a video

765
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:48,900
today of a friend that's talking about

766
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:50,940
you they're gonna come take her guns big

767
00:29:53,299 --> 00:29:52,049
for your about taking the guns well

768
00:29:55,159 --> 00:29:53,309
maybe they will who knows what are you

769
00:29:56,419 --> 00:29:55,169
gonna do when they come take a gun I'll

770
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:56,429
probably give it to them you know

771
00:29:58,940 --> 00:29:57,600
because I don't want to end up in jail

772
00:30:00,110 --> 00:29:58,950
or shot with the cases I've lived

773
00:30:02,299 --> 00:30:00,120
without a gun before I can do it again

774
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:02,309
no big deal but these people that's just

775
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,820
that's blasphemy the important thing for

776
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:07,440
me as one is my faith in my family I

777
00:30:10,580 --> 00:30:08,580
always thought about your faith and

778
00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:10,590
family and these other things were

779
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:13,470
affecting my faith in my family so I

780
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,820
have to make a decision what's more

781
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,840
important well yeah but what about

782
00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:17,760
fighting for the Constitution you know

783
00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:18,929
what you don't have to fight on its own

784
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:20,429
I got my faith and family to do it first

785
00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:23,490
and if I've got all that in you know

786
00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:25,590
control then maybe I could go outside of

787
00:30:29,539 --> 00:30:27,059
it but that's that's the important thing

788
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:29,549
for me yeah I think you mentioned

789
00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:31,650
earlier I mean it's not just you know

790
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:33,630
wanting to feel better it's also you saw

791
00:30:38,899 --> 00:30:37,049
these things not not coming true right

792
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:38,909
after a while so you do it for years and

793
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:40,950
years and nothing ever happened with you

794
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:43,679
know with Obama supposedly doing this

795
00:30:49,899 --> 00:30:46,950
recess or whatever it did I was no fan

796
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:49,909
of Obama but from what was being warned

797
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:52,890
none of that happened I'm so was you

798
00:30:56,049 --> 00:30:55,320
know as a speculator I did a terrible

799
00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:56,059
job

800
00:31:02,409 --> 00:30:59,490
why do you think is that you know these

801
00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:02,419
predictions keep being made over decades

802
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:04,860
then pretty much none of it ever comes

803
00:31:10,670 --> 00:31:07,170
true yeah we don't have FEMA canes

804
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,680
the UN takes great example you have a

805
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:12,960
new generation of kids coming up because

806
00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:14,310
here's the thing I've launched I said

807
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:15,780
I've been at I've been at these type of

808
00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:18,090
videos for 10 years and watch I've

809
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:20,070
watched people that are from back then

810
00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:22,590
that are still in it and I've watched

811
00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:25,020
people that have came in and phased out

812
00:31:30,530 --> 00:31:28,140
mmm they left it but there's a new batch

813
00:31:31,790 --> 00:31:30,540
coming in now once it phase out kind I

814
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:31,800
think you end up like me but they said

815
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:33,630
you know this just this kind of sucks

816
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:35,880
this is not a topic that makes me happy

817
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:38,910
you know what am i working for ok yes

818
00:31:42,530 --> 00:31:40,410
something bad may happen we'll do what

819
00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:42,540
we can but meanwhile I need to enjoy my

820
00:31:46,610 --> 00:31:44,520
Danny injure my family I'm working for

821
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:46,620
some you know this is nobody to live my

822
00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:48,570
life I had a lot of friends were

823
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:50,940
subscribers to my channel did just kinda

824
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:52,140
you know I just got tired of the whole

825
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:53,970
negative thing when they stopped

826
00:31:59,900 --> 00:31:55,380
watching they would offer did something

827
00:32:02,480 --> 00:31:59,910
else like I have so it's it's yet age

828
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:02,490
thing like you go through a certain

829
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:05,040
period in your life like your 20s 30s or

830
00:32:13,910 --> 00:32:11,100
whatever because yeah you see people of

831
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:13,920
all ages and that kind of thing but just

832
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,690
say new people I shouldn't necessarily a

833
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:17,640
newer generation but although it may be

834
00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:19,860
an age group there's there's new people

835
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:21,390
coming on all the time I would think it

836
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:23,340
just it just depends on what and there's

837
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:25,230
another thing too is many of the bad

838
00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:26,790
things to be concerned out there just

839
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:28,740
repeated again it's just enough just

840
00:32:35,390 --> 00:32:31,890
like if the population roll population

841
00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:35,400
issue I mean I I just I have several

842
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:37,740
books I did a long story but I think was

843
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:39,240
Ehrlichman or whatever had 19 we were

844
00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:41,610
supposed to get to the 80s and now the

845
00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:43,830
same thing is being rehashed

846
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:46,950
and it was more people now that we you

847
00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:48,150
know we're not gonna make it we've got

848
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:49,860
the 12 year window or something long now

849
00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:53,220
and it's just the rehash and old thing

850
00:32:58,790 --> 00:32:56,340
again and people once again they're

851
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:58,800
pushing the buttons yeah I really think

852
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:00,840
if you look at it if I can alter your

853
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:04,050
state if I'm if you understand how used

854
00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:05,640
cars were sold you really get the whole

855
00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:10,680
thing the the the but if they can if I

856
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:13,380
can push your button from whatever

857
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:16,140
things like whatever state it is I want

858
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:18,390
to put you in to which you participate

859
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:20,370
in what I have I just got to find that

860
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:20,890
button

861
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:22,210
and then I got to push that thing like

862
00:33:26,669 --> 00:33:23,980
there's no tomorrow I think that's what

863
00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:26,679
a lot of this is yeah you know we see in

864
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:28,780
politics we see it in in all these

865
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:30,250
things but they just try you guys we're

866
00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:32,020
praying on each other's emotions all the

867
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:34,600
time and it's for manipulation try to

868
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:35,890
get I want you to do so I want you to

869
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:37,750
buy my Toyota I want you to buy our

870
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:39,280
prayer soda product or whatever it is

871
00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:42,640
but I think a lot of this stuff once you

872
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,980
understand the recipe and really I like

873
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:46,000
some of these people all these people

874
00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:48,970
are making good money on YouTube okay I

875
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:51,400
mean not to pick on anyone but are you

876
00:34:00,120 --> 00:33:55,270
gonna watch Alex Jones and get a

877
00:34:01,890 --> 00:34:00,130
positive feel-good message it won't sell

878
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:01,900
it's not what the program is about and

879
00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:03,190
I'm not knocking the guy I think it'll

880
00:34:06,539 --> 00:34:05,320
probably get but if you're not gonna get

881
00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:06,549
it you know if things don't seem that

882
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:08,679
bad today it might be stable for a while

883
00:34:12,359 --> 00:34:10,690
I think things should be okay let's talk

884
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:12,369
about the weather you know that it's not

885
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:14,290
gonna happen it's every shows the last

886
00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:16,690
show cuz they ask what that's how they

887
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:18,220
push the button to get you to

888
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:21,310
participate you've been attacked by

889
00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:24,490
these people and they are serious well I

890
00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:25,960
hate those people fire it up you gotta

891
00:34:29,129 --> 00:34:27,580
push their buttons yeah they're very

892
00:34:32,010 --> 00:34:29,139
very serious I mean they think it's the

893
00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:32,020
most important thing ever oh yeah yeah

894
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:35,470
well it's strange like some of the more

895
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:37,090
vocal people actually being the people

896
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:40,060
who in that there's people like the 911

897
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:41,950
people and stuff like that but the UFO

898
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:45,129
people have been some of the seven or

899
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:47,649
more vocal people in terms of attacking

900
00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:48,760
me because they think it's this super

901
00:34:52,770 --> 00:34:50,440
important thing that the government is

902
00:34:54,990 --> 00:34:52,780
covering up these aliens bases or

903
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:55,000
whatever yeah and they think disclosure

904
00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:57,250
is going to be the the big change in the

905
00:34:59,790 --> 00:34:57,670
world

906
00:35:00,990 --> 00:34:59,800
right it's different type of thing but

907
00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:01,000
it's still the same feelings I think

908
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:03,220
yeah when they're when you're ox gets

909
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:05,830
gored it's a big deal you know it's yes

910
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:07,090
when you're in the thing that you're

911
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:11,200
invested in you know that's just they're

912
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:12,790
gonna fight back I had a thing at one

913
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:17,440
time where it was the the wolf crowd

914
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:19,450
people that were want to save the Wolves

915
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:21,730
wolf reintroduction too so that and I

916
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:23,410
had a lot of friends were trappers legal

917
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:26,830
trappers and you didn't make accomplish

918
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,970
something like that but I think out of

919
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:29,440
all the crowds that even the flat earth

920
00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:31,240
guys are kind of top it no one could

921
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:33,400
hold a candle to them they've the wolf

922
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:34,180
crowd me

923
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:38,020
a word there they're tough yeah so I

924
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:39,490
just I see you know what I'm gonna get

925
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,130
this conversation I can't win these guys

926
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:44,800
are vicious fascinating stuff I was

927
00:35:49,859 --> 00:35:46,920
gonna felt that there was kind of a

928
00:35:50,970 --> 00:35:49,869
demographic bulge of young people coming

929
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:50,980
in and coming out but it's interesting

930
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:52,869
you say that you think it's all kinds of

931
00:35:56,010 --> 00:35:53,740
different ages

932
00:35:58,650 --> 00:35:56,020
you think it's yeah it takes a certain

933
00:36:01,680 --> 00:35:58,660
amount of time for people to kind of

934
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,690
work through these things I think if you

935
00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:03,280
look at like what brings a person to it

936
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,380
I think the videos the production is so

937
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:08,079
much better now mmm before we got here a

938
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:11,230
guy in my car spitting out something on

939
00:36:14,819 --> 00:36:13,210
the internet here but now these the

940
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:14,829
production of these things are so much

941
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:16,930
better and they're well done and they're

942
00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:19,569
believable and compelling and you share

943
00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:21,160
it rapidly push a button in your phone

944
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,020
now everyone on your list gets to see it

945
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,079
and some of those people are gonna it's

946
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:27,520
their button man you just push their

947
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:29,050
button they're in so I really don't know

948
00:36:33,569 --> 00:36:30,640
if it's any more complicated than that

949
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:33,579
yeah something in my my book escaping

950
00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:35,500
the rabbit hole I talk about how YouTube

951
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:37,630
is responsible for a lot of a lot of the

952
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:39,849
conspiracy oh yeah big time big tenant

953
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:41,140
it's just it's almost gonna like a

954
00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:43,750
mainlining type thing it just gets gets

955
00:36:48,299 --> 00:36:45,400
the stuff into them a lot faster

956
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:48,309
right before where's your dress yeah

957
00:36:52,109 --> 00:36:50,470
like you had your uncle when you were

958
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:52,119
young and you know it was probably going

959
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:54,910
by books and right right like radio

960
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:56,770
shows and things like that you didn't do

961
00:37:00,599 --> 00:36:59,200
a lot of radio shows he was a I think by

962
00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:00,609
his own description but they call a hard

963
00:37:04,530 --> 00:37:01,660
money economist

964
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:04,540
hmm we're do this is a fiat economy we

965
00:37:08,849 --> 00:37:06,089
have here so they want to go back to

966
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:08,859
gold based economy and silver he was one

967
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:10,750
of those guys at sports gold and silver

968
00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:12,609
and all that and so most of his stuff

969
00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:14,980
was about a collapse or government

970
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:17,020
tyrannical government type of thing and

971
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:19,690
it was from there were a lot of radius

972
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:21,430
schism back then I don't think our bail

973
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:23,319
was going on yet so it was basically

974
00:37:27,569 --> 00:37:25,270
newsletters he got a lot of newsletters

975
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,579
really yeah yeah guys would you know

976
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:29,200
that was the big deal back then mailing

977
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:30,609
list you get on the me list this near

978
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:33,760
newsletter and he would have stacks of

979
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:36,250
these things and just it was basically

980
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:38,410
the same it was it was that was there

981
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:41,230
YouTube then see there could that be a

982
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:45,040
topic the light late 70s early 80s late

983
00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:47,010
70s early 80s yeah

984
00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:48,660
and they would subscribe to your

985
00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:51,120
newsletter that's kind of a mean joke

986
00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:52,950
now like if someone has an interesting

987
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:54,870
idea as you say they're interesting I

988
00:37:57,740 --> 00:37:55,650
would like to subscribe to your

989
00:38:01,760 --> 00:37:57,750
newsletter like she did that back then

990
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:01,770
in the in the early 80s they had let you

991
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:04,560
step on it yeah and you get things

992
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:05,910
through the mail and you'd read them it

993
00:38:12,530 --> 00:38:09,660
was very slow pace yeah but I mean back

994
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:12,540
then you heard about stuff I mean here

995
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:15,450
we are instantaneous a big event could

996
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:17,700
take weeks before you heard about it you

997
00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:18,690
know especially something little middle

998
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:19,590
east or something like that

999
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:21,060
weeks before we'd get a hold of it and

1000
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,290
it was always from one or two sources

1001
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:24,720
now you got people on the ground you

1002
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:26,910
know that's amazing yeah I think it's

1003
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,440
interesting you do get the same types of

1004
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:30,480
conversations there like in these

1005
00:38:34,910 --> 00:38:32,940
newsletters as you do in like Internet

1006
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:34,920
chat rooms even there it takes so much

1007
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:36,930
longer to happen I did a bit of research

1008
00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:38,220
into the history of the Flat Earth

1009
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:39,840
movement and it was back in the late

1010
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:42,980
1880s when it was going on and they had

1011
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:45,750
discussions in the letters columns of

1012
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:47,460
newspapers and you can read these

1013
00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:50,670
letters going back find people and it

1014
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:51,990
was just like people chatting on

1015
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:58,110
Facebook so it's great for the economy

1016
00:39:01,460 --> 00:38:59,130
because you had deploy the guy with the

1017
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:01,470
donkey and the everything else you know

1018
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:04,440
the transport yeah kind of shows what

1019
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:06,420
these are they're kind of Universal yeah

1020
00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:09,450
things that people like to to have these

1021
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:11,640
little drips of information and now

1022
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:14,670
you're getting them in much more overt I

1023
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:16,610
think yes I think that's affected us

1024
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:18,900
yeah that's effective could you just

1025
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:21,150
need to get a constant stream of this

1026
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:23,970
stuff whereas before I mean so you go

1027
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:25,590
back then it was it was everything was

1028
00:39:30,110 --> 00:39:27,690
very slow even now with so many people

1029
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:30,120
even when I started on YouTube myself I

1030
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:34,140
think it was 2000 2007 2008 but even

1031
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:36,570
from then to now because before I could

1032
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:38,370
watch a video and I'd have to take my

1033
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:42,150
laptop get on on online and if I want to

1034
00:39:44,030 --> 00:39:43,410
show it someone had to take him to the

1035
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:44,040
laptop

1036
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:46,410
mm-hmm yet he checked this out you know

1037
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:48,510
or I need to know if I had links going

1038
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:50,850
on back then but it was much slower but

1039
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:52,290
now with everyone has a phone my mother

1040
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,210
has a phone I could you know ship or

1041
00:39:57,530 --> 00:39:55,680
something right now that's a taneous as

1042
00:40:00,020 --> 00:39:57,540
she could see it and once again if I

1043
00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:00,030
could push that button it's fishing I

1044
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:00,990
like this person

1045
00:40:05,330 --> 00:40:03,150
participating what I am because it's

1046
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:05,340
quickly just allowance people have a lot

1047
00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:08,310
less time to think about it I think oh

1048
00:40:11,330 --> 00:40:08,760
yeah

1049
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:11,340
composing a letter to a newspaper and

1050
00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:13,020
it's very very different from just like

1051
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:15,150
you know typing a response to someone on

1052
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:17,910
Facebook so that shortening of the cycle

1053
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:21,660
of responding to people this is very

1054
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:24,990
different no time to marinate yes yeah

1055
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,090
yeah I think that's probably an

1056
00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:28,800
important thing I sometimes try to get

1057
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:31,320
better I try to not respond to things

1058
00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:33,750
sometimes especially if it's later late

1059
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,640
at night I'll say I'll just I'll let

1060
00:40:41,210 --> 00:40:38,640
this one slip on this way and see what

1061
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:41,220
happens in the morning so you had a your

1062
00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:43,890
own YouTube channel yeah it's just it's

1063
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:47,400
it's it's it's just me a seller five

1064
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:49,950
five nine it's just me whatever I I race

1065
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,710
cattle I have rescue dogs and cats

1066
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:55,020
I just bought a dirt bike I talk a

1067
00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:56,700
little bit about the Bible sometimes I

1068
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,460
get off into politics a little bit but

1069
00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:01,200
base for me YouTube is just a way I had

1070
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:02,790
had certain friends that had channels

1071
00:41:06,020 --> 00:41:04,950
mm-hmm and we would just communicate

1072
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:06,030
back and forth you're just making videos

1073
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:08,310
back and forth I have like seven or

1074
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:09,510
eight hundred subscribers I'm not a big

1075
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,640
channel or anything like that but I'm

1076
00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:13,200
not you can't see what's your channel

1077
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:14,430
about what's just about me

1078
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:15,720
so whatever I'm dealing with that day or

1079
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:18,450
whatever before when they start out I

1080
00:41:22,580 --> 00:41:20,940
was a prepper channel and a couple years

1081
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:22,590
ago when he said okay that's enough of

1082
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:24,930
that I made all my videos private I

1083
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:27,090
probably had six or seven hundred videos

1084
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:28,560
in short amount of time they were just

1085
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:30,930
about prepping well coming collapse and

1086
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:32,550
all this stuff and so when I made this

1087
00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:34,920
decision okay I'm done with this I just

1088
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:37,020
shut all that stuff down as well and now

1089
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:38,670
the channel is just was a prepper

1090
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,710
channel at one time it's not now it's

1091
00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:42,480
just whatever I'm doing well I guess

1092
00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:43,859
that kind of reflects your your own

1093
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:46,140
interests because yeah the channel is

1094
00:41:50,450 --> 00:41:48,119
just about you and what you're thinking

1095
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:50,460
about it's yeah SCO you were thinking

1096
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:52,050
about prepping all the time and now

1097
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:53,730
you've got time to think about other

1098
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:55,650
things like your family your faith in

1099
00:42:02,050 --> 00:41:58,980
your right right I'm happier I don't I'm

1100
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:02,060
getting far less views but I'm happier

1101
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:04,790
that's all you think blue doesn't matter

1102
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:08,970
so are you gonna do anything going

1103
00:42:12,349 --> 00:42:10,920
forward with the this type of thing

1104
00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:12,359
prepping or conspiracies or anything

1105
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:13,740
like that you've got neat plans to do

1106
00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:14,770
Rosie just basically

1107
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:18,280
something is out of your life now well I

1108
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:20,470
learned a lot of skills about prepping

1109
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:23,470
you cannot unlearn skills mm-hmm okay I

1110
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:25,410
do like I said I do raise cattle

1111
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,790
occasionally your run out of water pump

1112
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:29,680
goes down or something so you have to be

1113
00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:31,510
prepared for you know instances or

1114
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:33,220
something like that happens I've always

1115
00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:35,320
been a bulk buyer of food okay I don't

1116
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,870
hoard stuff like I did before I'm still

1117
00:42:41,310 --> 00:42:39,280
against and bullets get I always like to

1118
00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:41,320
shoot but you know I'm not getting rid

1119
00:42:45,870 --> 00:42:43,600
of that so as far as but I'm not I'm not

1120
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:45,880
promoting like you need these things or

1121
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:47,830
whatever I'm having more fun now I

1122
00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:50,530
figure physically my window I might have

1123
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:51,820
another six seven years before I'm just

1124
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:53,710
too crippled up to do anything so that's

1125
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:54,640
why I got the dirt bike

1126
00:42:58,890 --> 00:42:56,530
we're gonna go for broke I'm just having

1127
00:43:01,410 --> 00:42:58,900
fun now so it's it's an I have my might

1128
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:01,420
my niece has three little boys from four

1129
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:03,190
to a couple of months I just love them

1130
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:04,870
to death spend time with him alone all

1131
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:08,230
the time and all that and so as far as

1132
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:11,920
anything prepper wise sh t for collapse

1133
00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:14,950
or conspiracy theory that's something I

1134
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:16,300
used to do it's just not something I'm

1135
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:18,580
interested anymore so as far as me I we

1136
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:21,370
can't see myself going back to that we

1137
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:23,950
did watch you did watch the video though

1138
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:25,930
the ex conspiracy theorist what what can

1139
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:29,860
I do you - well I originally saw you on

1140
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Rogan I thought seems like a reasonable

1141
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:35,890
guy so I sent it for your channel I saw

1142
00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:38,650
the thing you did with the like a UFO oh

1143
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:42,580
yeah I filmed a thing like that yeah for

1144
00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:45,340
my mom she told you but as far as if

1145
00:43:49,590 --> 00:43:47,590
it's a good topic even if it's an SH

1146
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:49,600
year if it seems like a something

1147
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:51,910
reasonable I'll check it out but it's

1148
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:53,740
I'm not most of the time I'm like oh

1149
00:43:58,050 --> 00:43:55,930
this guy's pumping here this guy's

1150
00:43:59,820 --> 00:43:58,060
pushing the buttons okay this is uh not

1151
00:44:01,590 --> 00:43:59,830
my thing you know or if it's a friend of

1152
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:01,600
mine that might have a decent sized

1153
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,520
channel that he's got some topic that I

1154
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:05,200
might I might look at you where are they

1155
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:07,210
going today sometimes I like I watched a

1156
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:08,380
video this morning where these guys

1157
00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:10,360
going today and now they're pushing this

1158
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:13,060
a gun fear thing or whatever like okay

1159
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:14,830
whatever you know I can't wait to get on

1160
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:18,550
my bike yeah so just I've spent I've

1161
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:20,260
invested my time in that I just don't

1162
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:22,780
want to go into the I'm not drawn to it

1163
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:23,530
like it was before

1164
00:44:27,090 --> 00:44:24,970
once I realized they were pushing my

1165
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:27,100
buttons that just kind of killed the

1166
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:28,300
whole thing for me so

1167
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:29,350
and I don't mean that they did it

1168
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:31,420
intentionally but I was exposed you know

1169
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,370
I was that little girl at the scary

1170
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:35,440
movie that likes to be scared and that

1171
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:39,010
just took all the out of it you get yeah

1172
00:44:43,130 --> 00:44:40,870
people get addicted to these things oh

1173
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,140
yeah almost in a physical way I think

1174
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:45,520
because he do that you do get that kind

1175
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:46,750
of response

1176
00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:48,700
the things your brain secretes the

1177
00:44:54,510 --> 00:44:51,390
endorphins when you get the advantage

1178
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:54,520
yeah that's what marketing is altering

1179
00:45:03,030 --> 00:44:58,410
someone's state you know by that Toyota

1180
00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:03,040
thing but yeah all right well this is

1181
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:04,540
being very interesting are you

1182
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:05,770
interesting there's anything else you

1183
00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:07,120
want to talk about Rory I think we have

1184
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:10,260
covered it ah one thing I'll say is if

1185
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:13,090
protect your attitude hmm whatever

1186
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:14,470
you're into whether you're into

1187
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:16,930
conspiracy theories or knitting with cat

1188
00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:19,750
fur whatever the thing is inspiration

1189
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:22,420
protect your attitude because I see it

1190
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:24,220
so much more now at my agent knows

1191
00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:27,130
before if something if you or someone

1192
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:30,550
else alters your attitude it's affecting

1193
00:45:34,350 --> 00:45:33,250
everything else that you do and if you

1194
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:34,360
want to get the most out of what you're

1195
00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:35,950
doing you want to be all there you want

1196
00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:38,440
to be your best mindset to do it and so

1197
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:41,320
don't think that well I can listen to

1198
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:43,750
this you know weird music here whatever

1199
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,490
it is it affect you everything affects

1200
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:47,680
our attitude so if you just you want to

1201
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:49,270
live your best life you got to have the

1202
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:51,250
best attitude for it and you're really I

1203
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:53,380
don't think we protect that enough we

1204
00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:55,030
should be should be more careful of what

1205
00:46:00,030 --> 00:45:58,180
we let in see and that would be the only

1206
00:46:01,110 --> 00:46:00,040
like I think is advice I'd give but you

1207
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,120
got to protect you have the right

1208
00:46:04,910 --> 00:46:03,040
attitude you got to take that yeah

1209
00:46:08,070 --> 00:46:04,920
that's great that's great great advice

1210
00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:08,080
well thank you very much Dan make Wes

1211
00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:09,460
thank you yeah it's been very

1212
00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:11,360
interesting

1213
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:13,340
you've been listening to episode 5 of

1214
00:46:18,310 --> 00:46:15,680
tales from the rabbit hole coming up in

1215
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:18,320
episode 6 we talked to a man called Tim

1216
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:20,450
Osman at least that's the name he goes

1217
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:23,660
by Tim thinks 9/11 was an inside job but

1218
00:46:27,730 --> 00:46:25,250
he spends a lot of time debunking the

1219
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:27,740
flat earth conspiracy theory interesting